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Best semi-auto .308 (7.62x51) rifle?

I am looking into a .308 rifle and I choose 308 because I want my Remington 700 and this semi to shoot the same stuff.

I want a rifle that is very resilient to the weather. The accuracy does not have to be there as much because that's why my 700 is for. I do want a gas-piston setup. I have looked at a few, and I am leaning towards a Masada but this is not available for civilian purchase yet. Any other suggestions? I have looked into milled AK's, FAL styles and PTR 91's. I would like it to have the ability to "accessorize" with a red dot scope. The piston driven is the hardest requirement to find. Almost everything is gas only but I have always heard gas is not nearly as reliable, just faster rates of fire. I am not going fully auto so it does not need that.

Are the AR-10 style with a piston reliable? I know the M-16 is garbage for reliability.

Battle rifle, Semi-auto, .308, gas-piston



I would be happy to give my 2 cents on this subject, as I went through this exact dilemna myself.

I finally chose a Remington 700 (308) and....
a Springfield Armory M1A Socom.

I, like you had the Bolt action first.
I wanted a semi auto to supplement my arsenal that would shoot the same caliber.

I looked into different guns: FAL, PTR 91 (HK Clone), AR 10 and M1A Socom.

Here are some of the forums where people have gone through the same thing or just own a certain one of these and are telling of their expericnce with it.

http://www.hk94.com/hk/Fal-Vs-Ptr-91-t4027.html

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278371

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=218998

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97047

As you can see, there are many differing opinions out there.
A couple of things that I found in my search is that most of the people that bad-mouth a certain firearm have no experience with it at all.
My advice is to handle as many of these guns and shoot as many as you can. I am lucky because my local rifle range is huge and i see all of these types of guns every week. I got to touch them and hold them and even shoot them so I could see which one fit me best.

I wanted one that I could accessorize with all the "cool stuff".
Here are my opinions on all of these guns.

AR10: I like the ergonomics of this gun but I couldn't find one that fit tight between the upper and lower receivers. Every one I saw had a noticible gap and "play". Probably the most "accessorizable" of any of these guns here.

FAL: This one seems longer and the most unwieldy to me, but very reliable and proven in real world battles.

PTR91: I liked the way this one handled. Also has the least expensive magazines. As others will tell you, it mauls brass and ejects them with force.

M1A SOCOM: I liked the feel of this one most of all. It seemed to be the most solid feeling of all of these.

As far as accuracy goes, I fired them at 50 yards, 100 yards, 200 yards and 300 yards. There wasn't a noticible difference between any of them and I suspect that you won't be disappointed in the accuracy department, no matter which one you pick.

I finally chose the SOCOM because I liked the way it handled and felt. It also had the least recoil of all of these guns, which helped me with the fastest follow up shots. I suspect it is partially because of the integral muzzle brake that vents gasses to 2 & 10 o'clock.
It also has four picatinny rails so it was easy to accessorize.

Bear in mind that all of these guns are hard to find right now and when you do find them they are real expensive.
I bought mine on: http://www.gunbroker.com/
but have seen them on http://www.gunsamerica.com/
and http://www.auctionarms.com/

If your local gun shop doesn't have them or can't get them, you can get them on these sites... guaranteed.

Good luck


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